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Mortgage interest deduction in some danger

While the mortgage and real estate industries are trying to find solid footing in this soft market, Capitol Hill in Washington is getting ready to unveil this fall wide-ranging legislation that would address climate change, more specifically the reduction of carbon emissions. The goal is a cutback of 60 to 80% by the year 2050, an ambitious endeavor. It is to be achieved by raising taxes on gasoline and eliminating the mortgage interest deduction on homes over 3,000 sq. ft. The so-called McMansions.

Everybody is aware about cars and the pollution they produce, but houses, too, are large greenhouse-gas emitters. It happens through cooling, heating, building materials and power usage, areas that many of us don't really consider that harmful.

Soon after the legislative draft was circulated, the building and real estate industries found all sorts of problems with it. Home builders are reminding everyone how green they have gone over the last several years. That homes today are the most energy-efficient in recorded history. It's true that advances have been made in appliances, materials, building techniques and windows, for instance. Perhaps they pace should be quickened, though.

NAR, or National Association of Realtors, has quickly produced various statistics showing how doing away with the mortgage interest deduction for properties over 3,000 sq. ft. would negatively affect the overall market. This write-off removal seems to have generated the most comments. Supposedly prices would decline and foreclosures would rise. It's difficult to prove these claims either correct or incorrect. It actually appears to be kind of posturing from an interest group that has its own spoon in the soup.

The important thing here is that a draft will be introduced and then the debate can begin. The matter is to be taken seriously. Some are arguing now that this legislature would just inflame the current turbulence in the marketplace, but that's unlikely. If this action ever becomes a law, it'll take a couple of years, minimum. Large initiatives like this just don't get done in a month or two. By then the troubles are over and the real estate market is back on a solid ground again.

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Esko Kiuru
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44 commentsEsko Kiuru • August 26 2007 03:33PM

Comments

I can't believe that congress would eliminate the mortgage interest deduction even on the McMansions in this current real estate climate.

They may be challenged, but their aren't complete idiots.

Posted by Marty Van Diest, Your Alaskan Realtor (Valley Market Real Estate) over 3 years ago

I heard something of this in the works earlier this year. This would definitely impact the decision to buy a home on at any price range. They'll start with the larger homes and work their way down.

Posted by Lori Lincoln- Taunton to Attleboro MA Rehoboth, Dighton, Swansea, Attleboro (Keller Williams Realty/Realtor Taunton and South of Boston) over 3 years ago
Esko -- These Bozos need to know that the Real Estate industry is huge and we have a long memory.  As soon as this is introduced we all need to slam them with phone calls, email and snail mail telling them to go ahead and make our day.  This year I am not voting for any incumbent.  These bozos have not earned a pennies worth of what they have been paid and I am fed up.  Aloha 
Posted by Bruce Bourgault, Vice President, Mpro (Central Pacific Homeloans) over 3 years ago

Marty,

If the write-off removal ever happens, it would be years from now.

Posted by Esko Kiuru over 3 years ago

Lori,

Starting from the higher end has a small chance and they know it.

Posted by Esko Kiuru over 3 years ago

Bruce,

Over the decades similar drafts have been introduced and they've never gone very far.

Posted by Esko Kiuru over 3 years ago
i'd really like to see what they based the assumption that foreclosures would increase (3000+) if the income deduction is removed. it doesn't change the monthly payment one way or another.
Posted by Jay Beckingham (HomeLynx Home Loans) over 3 years ago
Jay- the affordibility factor would decrease. Some large homes are not worth that much. The mortgage is cutting the out of pocket expenses of owning by 25-30%. It would be a papaerwork nitemare.
Posted by Eric Bouler (Prudential Gardner,Licensed in La.) over 3 years ago

Hi Esko,

I think the whole system is so screwed up ..I'm not sure whether it is or not a benefit.

Posted by Neal Bloom-Realtor ®CRS-Weston FL Real Estate (Keller Williams Properties,Weston Florida) over 3 years ago

The Congress is so addicted to more and more money, they don't even care what the voting public care about any more.  They get their money from their pet special interests and the average voter has no influence excpet for the occasional photo-op.

The only thing that would save the mortgage industry deduction would be if the talk show industry took up the cause.  Fat chance. Not sexy enough.

Posted by Lenn Harley, Real Estate Broker, Virginia & Maryland (Lenn Harley, Homefinders.com, MD & VA Homes and Real Estate) over 3 years ago

i don't think an elimination or a cap based on sq. ft. willever happen. talk about an idea that would

really kill the market!!! mike

Posted by Michael Carew (Wells Fargo Home Mortgage) over 3 years ago
I think it highly unlikely it would pass, but I agree they are so addicted to money they don't think about what that lack of money working in the market place would do to bring the economy down for sure.
Posted by John Savignano Realtor Hopkinton and Metrowest MA Real Estate (RE/MAX Executive) over 3 years ago
I read the entire law (bill) that is going to be proposed on my state senators website.  They are only talking about taking away a very small percentage of the deduction for a very small percentage of people...frankly not worth all the this time.
Posted by Jim McGrath over 3 years ago

Ahahhhh!!!

That's it!! Raise taxes.... that will fix it.....

We cannot complain.... we elect these boobs

 

Posted by Tom Burris | Texas Mortgage Dallas Mortgage FHA (DallasLoanGuy.com) over 3 years ago
I have been hearing about this for 5 years, only because that is how long I have been in the industry to even care.
Posted by Real Estate in Grand Rapids Ethan Dozeman (Platinum Realty Group) over 3 years ago

I wonder who came up with the notion that a 3000 sqft home is a McMansion? Here in Minnesota, almost every home has a basement. If you finish it, then almost everyhome would then have 3000 sqft, hardly a mansion in our books.

 

Posted by Jennifer Kirby, the Luxury Agent (Exit Realty Ventures) over 3 years ago
Esko - I seriously doubt that congressmen and senators are going to take away their own interest deductions for their own mansions.  They don't hesitate to pass legislation that affects you and I but when it hurts their own pocketbook I don't remember them ever passing that kind of legislation.
Posted by George Tallabas - Idaho Real Estate (RE/MAX Advantage) over 3 years ago
Interesting post. We'll all have to watch as this unfolds.
Posted by Benjamin Realty LLC over 3 years ago
This would be a double wammy for a lot of people. Higher interest rates on Jumbo loans and no deduction. 
Posted by James Gordon REALTOR® PBD SFR SRS (Sibcy Cline Realtors®) over 3 years ago

My prediction: ain't gonna happen!

NAR, mortgage bankers, and the entire real estate industry will line up against this half baked, proposed legislation.

Posted by Jim Lee, REALTOR®, Knoxville, Tennessee (Realty Executives Associates) over 3 years ago

I always question these side bills.... so people will fight assessments now to show their house is under 3000sf?

This is just silly... what about the family with 17 kids in Arkansas.... they should live in under 3000sf?

 

Posted by Boca Raton & Lake Worth Florida Real Estate Broker over 3 years ago

Jay,

Some economist over there probably worked the numbers to come out right.

Posted by Esko Kiuru over 3 years ago

Eric,

It would be a complex undertaking.

Posted by Esko Kiuru over 3 years ago

Neal,

It seems to help the middle class with their budget. Complex, yes.

Posted by Esko Kiuru over 3 years ago

Lenn,

Special interests are going to play a large role in this debate.

Posted by Esko Kiuru over 3 years ago

Michael,

I'm really unsure on how it would affect the market. More study needed.

Posted by Esko Kiuru over 3 years ago

John,

It appears to have a slim chance as it is.

Posted by Esko Kiuru over 3 years ago

Jim,

Thanks. The post highlights the main points, details are deeper in the draft.

Posted by Esko Kiuru over 3 years ago

Tom,

Isn't that the truth. We put these people in there.

Posted by Esko Kiuru over 3 years ago

Ethan,

This argument is almost as old as the hills.

Posted by Esko Kiuru over 3 years ago

Jennifer,

The square footage is certainly going to be in the center of this debate.

Posted by Esko Kiuru over 3 years ago

George,

These guys are the masters at protecting their own interests.

Posted by Esko Kiuru over 3 years ago

Bob & Carolin,

It'll be out there in the media starting this winter, I'd think.

Posted by Esko Kiuru over 3 years ago

James,

You make a good point now that jumbos are more expensive.

Posted by Esko Kiuru over 3 years ago

Jim,

That's for sure. These groups are not going to take it without a stiff fight.

Posted by Esko Kiuru over 3 years ago

David,

Right, huge arguments would develop over what size someone's house is, if it's around the cutoff point.

Posted by Esko Kiuru over 3 years ago
My take on this is that there are too many legislators that own two houses, of which at least one is probably bigger than 3,000 sq. feet.  They're not going to take away their own tax deductions.  I don't believe it.  This is just political posturing  - I wonder what the real issue is?
Posted by Kate Bourland Empowering America to Live Debt Free (Financial Solutions Inc.) over 3 years ago

Kate,

Some of them could be serious about it, but the majority probably won't for that reason.

Posted by Esko Kiuru over 3 years ago
The government is looking for any way to raise income. Spending has been out of control for years and they are just looking for any way to increase treasury funds. Just how many Americans would be effected? Certainly not the middle and lower class....well perhaps the upper middle class. The thing is, it won't pass because the people that would be effected vote. -Charles
Posted by Jacqulyn Richey - Las Vegas Real Estate (Prominent Realty Group) over 3 years ago
thanks for the info
Posted by Joshua Talayka (Chase Internatinonal) over 3 years ago

Charles,

They are trying it now under the banner of reducing greenhouse-gas emissions. It has a long road ahead.  

Posted by Esko Kiuru over 3 years ago

Joshua,

Wait until the real debate in Washington starts.

Posted by Esko Kiuru over 3 years ago

It would seem counter productive to eliminate the larger homes. The homes where owners will typically spend huge sums of their incomes (Taxed) on Theatre Rooms (Expensive, Taxed and utilizes both products and services(Generates LOCAL income)), Outdoor Living Rooms (Ditto) Landscaping (Ditto), Commerical style kitchens (Ditto, Ditto, Ditto). McMansion owners tend to spend more on entertainment, travel, shopping and utilize more hired help (Plumber, Gardener, electrician, Gen contractor). They also tend to drive more expensive vehicles and buy more often than average (Read: Tax dollars, use of services). So, why not take them out of the market? Make them perpetual renters? Of course, tax savings should never be the only motivatin for purchasing a home but........do we want to risk the potential revenue? Great post Esko. Yes, much debate to hear on this subject!

Posted by Christopher Walker (Mission Grove Realty Inc. - REO Real Estate) over 3 years ago

Chris,

That's an interesting way to look at the issue. Let's see what, if anything, comes after the debate is over.

Posted by Esko Kiuru over 3 years ago

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